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JohnnyV045 · Jul 27, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

PLEASE READ ME BEFORE POSTING: I have not said, and will not say, that Assassins are a broken class. The title of this thread is a reference to the belief of some people (READ: not me) that Assassins are "broken". I do not share that view, I was simply making a half SARCASTIC statement towards that end. However, even if I did say Assassins were broken (WHICH I'M NOT), does that somehow make me less knowledgeable about the game and/or game balance? It's an OPINION...

Anyways, I was reading the newest Scribe, and I read something that brought up a strong sense of deja vu...

"Assassins wear only lightweight armor and prefer to avoid damage by not being there when the enemy's strike lands." (source: Guild Wars-Factions Instruction Manual)

"While [Dervishes] have exceptional melee abilities, they do not wear heavy armor like that of a Warrior, but rather rely on their wit and reflexes to defend themselves." (source: The Scribe, July 27, 2006)

Anyone else see where I'm going with this?

EDIT: Strongly edited, to point out the point of the original post. It could be argued forever whether or not assassins are broken or not, and I will not do it here.

Scutilla · Jul 27, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I think it's far to early to say- we know nothing other than the class and attribute descriptions.

See how they perform this weekend first (and even then, since skills are in a beta state, it might be too early to say for sure).

Greedy Gus · Jul 27, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

No, I think you know nothing of game balance and should remove yourself from any discussions.

ischuros · Jul 27, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I dont thin that sins are broken, like you say, but more dangerously, people are not really sure how to play them. They are not warriors, eve though they are a melee profession. If people really got down and studied (ok just played and experimented a bit more) them, thy really could flourish. Once Saturday (GMT) roles around we'll have a better understanding of the devishers, and what's this I hear about selected genders for the PvP, can you only play female/male?!

JohnnyV045 · Jul 27, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Oh, I'm not saying it's for sure. My point (kind of) in this post is, don't those descriptions sound very similar to you?

JohnnyV045 · Jul 27, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

No, I think you know nothing of game balance and should remove yourself from any discussions.

Yes, because this thread definatly mentions game balance...

MSecorsky · Jul 27, 2006, 09:00 PM // 21:00

If you consider assassins a 'broken profession'... you've already disqualified yourself as one with knowledge of the game.

Thom · Jul 27, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

The word "broken" implies a question about game balance.

Assassin durablility issues come from the lack of solid defensive skills as much as armor. Dervishes will not lack this flaw.

Finally assassin were not designed to take damage, where Dervishes seem to be designed as solid self reliant characters.

prodigy ming · Jul 27, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

I don't get what sorta role Dervishes will serve though... If I want to tank I'd get a warrior and if I want massive damage a ele is probably going to be better at it.

Thom Bangalter · Jul 27, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

when I heard about broken professions I auto-assumed he meant ritualists. and then i thought he might be talking about mysticism being broken or something...so...

Kruzing Low · Jul 28, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

that scythe is probably gonna have an attack swing speed 1/2 sec longer then a hammer

gamecube187 · Jul 28, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

i see where Arena Net is going....I think...

I think they are trying to create "front-line" characters (by front-line, i mean warrior, assinssin, and now this) but get us out of the "front-line fighters should only be tanks, otherwise they suck" sort of thought.

Anyone else seem to think this is what Arena Net is trying to do?

koshie · Jul 28, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

i hurd that dervishes will be able to hit more then 1 enemy at a time some what like a ww barb in d2( if u have ever played d2) making them usfull 4 mowing down mobs as a melee character the armor lower doesnt change much its never the proffesion that is broke its more the players that r then every 1 else pays 4 it witch gets me mad.

|pyro| · Jul 28, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Assasin is the best support damage dealer in FoW.

Nevin · Jul 28, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Its too early to say.

Bryant Again · Jul 28, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

I wouldn't call the assassin class "broken", just misused. Otherwise, I see where you're going: The Dervishes could be misunderstood, meaning that like the assassins, they'll be used as frontline warriors, taking damage and dying.

But of course, it's still too early to say. Just wait til midnight!

twicky_kid · Jul 28, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by prodigy ming

I don't get what sorta role Dervishes will serve though... If I want to tank I'd get a warrior and if I want massive damage a ele is probably going to be better at it.

Ele's deliver dmg in burst like an assassin does.

Dervishes are going to be able to use AoE attacks and normal attacks. Its a pressure style class. Combine this with smite is going to be interesting to see.

unmatchedfury · Jul 28, 2006, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Ele's deliver dmg in burst like an assassin does.

Dervishes are going to be able to use AoE attacks and normal attacks. Its a pressure style class. Combine this with smite is going to be interesting to see.

not only smite mate ( but think about this) the ultamate aoe melee class!

55 farming deverish anyone? i personally can't wait.

Khift · Jul 28, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

55's? Bah, you're too old skool. SBond ftw!

D/Mo SBond farming ftw

unmatchedfury · Jul 28, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07

lol O_O the possibilities. cant wait til nightfall comes out im gonna set aside 100k now for armor